advice for recruits

[caroomba]

hi guys i wil b entering army soon. got any advice for me or not? i very worried i cannot tahan the physical training. i heard veri siong.

[bouncy_1978]

Siong is one thing.. The nice and cool thing is u all guys will have your own secret world lingo that the girls will not understand.. All the jargon and nicknames for weapons, drills, whatnots. It's like a different language. It's like some sect talking latin. Oops off topic.

[happyhormones]

oh please. girls don't want to understand your "secret" language...

[katchykid]

Hi Recruit,

the best thing to do is of coz to serve your nation dutifully. Just do what they say unless you feel that what they are asking you to do defies the law of natural order.

the next best thing to do is to go and downgrade yourself. find some medical defects that you have(everyone has anyway, if not come up with one) and see a private specialist.. get some freaking letter.. just keep doing it.
remember downgrading in army is not a science, its an art.

hope you are happy in there.

take care...and oh ya, in case i dont see you again..good morning, good afternoon and good night.

[bouncy_1978]

oh please. girls don't want to understand your "secret" language...

Yeah but as a girl, whenever I hang out with the guys and they go into their army discourse, I feel very left out. Sometimes I'm envious of their forced enlistment because of the "camaraderie" at the end of the day!.

[Ubergurl]

okay lah.. quite entertaining.
Most guys seem to have this Jekyll/ Hyde thing going on. Can be damned civilised when alone, but once they get together with their army buddies, the hokkien peng in them emerges with a vengeance.

damn fun to watch.

[missbennet]

Would Mr Darcy have survived NS?

[tayyq]

im going to serve my ns next year after i graduate. kind of excited tho. hehe

when are you going in caroomba? maybe u can share ur experience with me. :)

[acidboy]

NS can be fun in some way. Siong in another way.

Remember to keep a posivtive mindset and everything will be fine. how many guys before you had been thru army? ahaha. i'm one of them. that's for sure. =)

[katchykid]

NS can be fun in some way. Siong in another way.

Remember to keep a posivtive mindset and everything will be fine. how many guys before you had been thru army? ahaha. i'm one of them. that's for sure. =)

acidboy is either
1) an army regular
2) a white horse
3) a clerk
4) an idiot

[dawnyang]

5) driver
6) pes F

[ibon]

sorry.. i am a girl. can't help u much...
but good luck lah! ;)

[Kosmicheskaya]

BMT is really the most fun you'll have in your entire NS life. The friendships you build up and the training you go through leads to a truly unforgettable experience.

After that, it's really a matter of luck and where it takes you. I got posted to the Navy :D

[acidboy]

wahahaha i am none.

i am

- an ORD man.
- an ex-instructor
- a pes B NSMen
- a local 2nd SGT
- and a guy who failed IPPT! LOL!!!

[botak2006]

you know why?
you can see alot of pass incident where there are many mishap happen in NS
so now NS really take care of the soilders

if any instructor make thing difficult for you. report to your officer.

:D

[mingz]

What if its the officers that make things diffcult for you?

[katchykid]

you know why?
you can see alot of pass incident where there are many mishap happen in NS
so now NS really take care of the soilders

if any instructor make thing difficult for you. report to your officer.

:D

I kinda agree with you ..

Its the reservist that kills

[castleboy78]

Man,

Just Do it.....

I believe BMT is not the best part of the Army Life.

If you move on to SISPEC/OCS, then you have have the best time of your Army Life. Curse & swear initially, but the enjoyment that you get in Unit will be so fun. Nights off, Long weekend, Take part in NDP, have overseas training....

All for Free......

Cheers,

[acidboy]

sispec? forget it lar.. either OCS or clerk. make a choice! lol

[princemousey]

No, I think the best school to go to in army would be School of Military Intelligence. Oh, girls don't have to feel left out lah. If the guys around you talk their army talk just join in and ask them to explain to you all the terms and stuff lah.

[acidboy]

they will sleep in front of me. LOL

[Kosmicheskaya]

No, I think the best school to go to in army would be School of Military Intelligence. Oh, girls don't have to feel left out lah. If the guys around you talk their army talk just join in and ask them to explain to you all the terms and stuff lah.

Or they can sign on...

[th3arch3r]

Hey man i tell u i now in NS yes now life better but still SAF is screwed up sia, efficiency is freaking low, all those who sign on only know how to make recruits do sai kang so they can suck up and get their promotion. i tell u camaraderie is nonsence u only make friends wif ppl who help u cover ur back and u cover theirs when u keng. Pls for goodness sake if u girl dun envy us!

[duffluver]

Why are we caring about NS? I'm scared of going. Still got 4 years. I plan to make myself sick or something.

[acidboy]

Why are we caring about NS? I'm scared of going. Still got 4 years. I plan to make myself sick or something.

make urself sick? what kind of sick? if you just want to siam NS and get yourself injured or some strange illness, i have to say it is not worth it. Army is not that siong compare to last time. and it is still getting more and more relax now. just go in and face the army like a real man.

[Observerer]

Does whitehorse still exist in NS nowadays? Sorry I was out of NS many years ago.

[audreeex]

white horse???
you mean the pampered sons of high ranking people? If that's it, yeah they still do exist. My friend 's dad is working in the gov , and he just pretty much get away with lots of stuff. haha

[Observerer]

I thought the sole purpose of labelling whitehorses is to prevent them to be treated differently? So that all their superiors will take notice of them to make sure that they are treated equally like the rest? I think I saw this somewhere in the newspapers some time ago. What an irony......

[savemenow]

I thought the sole purpose of labelling whitehorses is to prevent them to be treated differently? So that all their superiors will take notice of them to make sure that they are treated equally like the rest? I think I saw this somewhere in the newspapers some time ago. What an irony......

labelling white horses is to prevent them from being treated differently? then why label them in the first place?

[Observerer]

labelling white horses is to prevent them from being treated differently? then why label them in the first place?
Precisely!

[deranged58]

Aiyah, white horses get good treatment one. - -;

I also joining NS next year, currently PES D, pending further investigations, LOL. But I'll most prob be PES E after everything. :D

[cynical]

:D haha no prob la.. i also gonna go NS after next yr but ok la. i'm staying in there 4 gd. wan sign on sia. ppl younger than me better watch out. u get me as instructor u die... haha;)

[castleboy78]

whiteHorse??

Get to go canteen more often than the rest!
Get to sleep early than others!
Get to Book Out Early & Booked In late!
Get to rest every 5 mins of exercise!

Pray Hard that you get into the White Horse Company & best Pllatton, and you will live like a King.

[serious_thinker]

You should enjoy your time there. Its the only time you get to play with explosives.;)

[juxuan]

go ns is a time for you to enjoy, no studying or working for 2 years, make friends, have fun, suffer together and play together, sure time will pass very fast one, when u ord, u will really wish you were back there, instead of slogging away at the endless test and assignments in uni man

[sGtSMthG]

no wonder you are called katchykid.. you reali are a kid! haha... go downgrade yourself? maybe your father brought you up too well to to fully savour the priviledges of living in a safe and stable nation

[el_nino]

i've heard now that there are rulings regarding punishments, such as at once only can pump 20 and that there must be an interval of x minutes between punishments. True or not?

[Kosmicheskaya]

Not at all. The only major thing regarding punishments that I know of, is that change parades have been abolished.

There are so many ways to get around the "20 pushups" thing it's hilarious. Like a sergeant asked my platoon to do just THREE pushups. Only to spell it out. i.e. do a pushup from A, B, C, D, all the way to T, then A, B, C, all the way to H, and so on.

Not sure about the interval thing though.

[juxuan]

depends on what unit u go to also, punishments may not necessarily be just limited to pushups, other types of "activities" may be involved...and not true change parades still happen frequently in the unit i was from

[Kosmicheskaya]

You won't find them in BMT at least. Officially, they're supposed to be abolished.

[KarL_G]

No doubt many people on this forum haven't even been to NS...

Some, like me, late teens, going there in a coupla years time.

So, for those who HAVE been to NS, and have been through it all, why not give the younger male STOMPers here an idea of what to expect?

After all, you guys were once teens too, and did not know what to expect. How about letting us now have some idea of what to expect in the future?

What can you say to teens who think NS is a piece of cake? What do you have to say about the way some teens are handling life now? NS is a big jerk out of their comfort zones, so what do you have to say ABOUT the culture shock and the difference between NS and their lives now where everything they want is within arms length reach and their computers, Ipods and handphones are their lives?

[BFnut]

I've posted in other Topics about NS and here are some of it :

Fear, Trepidation, Uncertainty, Disgust :
• You are unfit & unable to take the demanding training.
• You are tied up for at least 2 years. You feel you’re being restrained.
• Your relationship with your girlfriend may be on the rocks and the inevitable happens…(Taiwan saying I think is “Bing Bian”)
• Your attempt at a relationship maybe nipped in the bud & doesn’t blossom at all.
• Your pay sucks.
• There is the always the element of danger in any duty you perform. The risk of sustaining injury or worse lurks around.

BUT you can Fight :
• If you’re not physically fit now, TRAIN & PREPARE.
I signed on when I was 17, under the Joint Poly scheme.
Before the day I entered BMT, I exercised minimally – the pre-requisite 2.4km run in school. In my first week of training, my hands trembled after every exercise. I had to steady my right hand with my left when I ate with a spoon.
However, at the end of BMT, I turned out fit as a fiddle… damn I miss my 6 packs!
• Break the chains of despondency & feelings of restraint while serving NS.
Going into NS is the 1st step (for many) into the real world.
You’ll learn about interpersonal skills with your fellow human beings.
So look beyond the barb wire. Your day will come when you will ORD.
When that day comes, you’ll miss your NS days.
• Relationships that are on-going or that are about to start - I know its clichéd, but there will always be another tree in the forest.
I’ve been through the small garden of Mandai, the little forest of Tekong, the damn big & black Bruneian jungle & the dusty Outback… ah ok,
I mean there will always be girls, ladies, women.
If you & her are not fated, then its not meant to be.
But there are also relationships that have lasted through countless burned weekends & overseas training stints = True love.
• Pay – Live within your means, & save whatever/whenever.
• Danger – Always be safe, think safe and practice safe :
Eg. If you are genuinely sick, raise your hand before the Ex / training starts.

But in the end, or in the midst of NS, there's
Enjoyment & Fun, Camaraderie, Brotherhood, Growing Up :
• Where else can you get to do fun things like shooting off ammo, blowing up things with grenades/mortar/arty/anti-tank
• Where else you get to drive a tank/AFV/LSV/UAV and get a free licence in the process?
• Get to see brilliant sunrises or sunsets, be it on top of a hill, on the deck of a ship or when you’re floating down to the ground under the canopy of a parachute ?
• Sleep under a plethora of brilliant, twinkling stars, having a full moon as your night light ?
• Sense of satisfaction for making it through in one piece after ORD
• Learn Life skills other than fighting – office politics, how to sa ka, tai ji or keng = interpersonal skills.
• Live & Work with people from ALL walks of life, it’s a melting pot of people from different cultures, where there is no black, yellow, brown or white.
ONLY ARMY GREEN, NAVY WHITE & AIRFORCE BLUE.
• NS is THE time where boys become men.

To teens who think NS is a piece of cake -
Good for you, if you're :
a) damn fit, PES A calibre - Infantry for you
b) not fit, sure PES C/E - Desk jockey, office hours, SA Commander

Bad karma for guys :
a) not fit, but remain PES A - Infantry for you (after more rigorous training)
b) not fit, PES A calibre, intend to downgrade through medical - please dont handicap yourself for life...

The way some teens are handling life now -
Live it up, enjoy. Because when you're in NS, you'll grow up.
Its where you'll learn some self-discipline & respect for yourself & others.
Its where you'll lose your innocence, when you take that first shot...

Difference before & after going into NS
Your computers, Ipods and handphones is not your Way of life, it is only a Part of it.
Likewise, your SBO, Helmet & Rifle will only be part of your life.
However, camaraderie, brotherhood, friendship will always be within you.

[el_nino]

Very insightful post! Thumbs up!

[KarL_G]

That was a great post!

Great advice! Great writing too!

[Smurfs]

i've heard now that there are rulings regarding punishments, such as at once only can pump 20 and that there must be an interval of x minutes between punishments. True or not?


HAha.. thats what i heard before entering into army 2 years ago.. but what i realised is totally shocking..yes the by right the rule for push up punishments is a max of 20...but...there are many ways to twist this rule. For example, the Sgts can make u do until 19 and say that he can't hear properly or u all didn't do together, so u all start from 0..so did u count until 20?? haha..NO. But after completing BMT, i've heard that this rule has been reinforced and sgts are to adhere strictly to the 20 max push up rule......but...the sgts can always ask u do more than 20 using the excuse that its just an exercise..haha.. Thats the ARMY... Welcome... hahahahaha....

[Smurfs]

hi guys i wil b entering army soon. got any advice for me or not? i very worried i cannot tahan the physical training. i heard veri siong.

Good luck MAn!!! Well, i can only say is that bmt life is NO LONGER shiong as compared to what i have gone through 2 years ago...Life in there is so much better, there are lesser ill treatments..and your pay has been increased already. Ultimately, don't have to worry..be a man and go through your BMT and u realise that BMT is one of the most enjoyable moments in your army life.
PS. Yes, i said that life in the army has indeed been better than previous years.. but 1 thing has not changed is that the management of the army is a TOTAL FAILURE...rush to wait, wait to rush... u will realise this soon.

[Bored_Dad]

Yup, there are many ways to punish other than push ups, and even if one is given 20 push ups by one instructor, there is no stopping for another instructor to give another 20.

Change parade? Or sure, they won't do it as officially change parade, they will just ask you to go for this lesson now in this attair, then later go for another training in another attaire, in the end, one will get change to 3 to 4 different training attair within one or 2 hours, any different? Worse right, cause in the mist of the training are all the rest of other punishment incorporated together with the so called changing of training attair.

Think after sometime, soldiers would rather have just pure change parade rather that such twisted version change parade.

[seantzw]

why is it capped at 20? doing 20 isn't that physically exhausting... I mean previously in secondary school when our coach pumped us, it was into the 100s. no exaggeration here - the lowest he ever pumped us was 300. of course not all at one go.. like 30-50 at once.. we could finish that much in under 20mins... and that was considered punishment which is not equal to strength training, so later on we had to continue with strength training. if secondary school kids can do it, what more army guys?

[alondoo]

why is it capped at 20? doing 20 isn't that physically exhausting... I mean previously in secondary school when our coach pumped us, it was into the 100s. no exaggeration here - the lowest he ever pumped us was 300. of course not all at one go.. like 30-50 at once.. we could finish that much in under 20mins... and that was considered punishment which is not equal to strength training, so later on we had to continue with strength training. if secondary school kids can do it, what more army guys?

You're right about that.. after a while the 20s and 30s really don't bother you anymore. So much so towards the end of BMT the sgt have to innovate the "punishment" cos they can see push-ups just too easy to do. lol

So, just don't bother. Use the push-ups as free fitness coaching. ;)

[EricLensherr]

According to my PTI friends, there is actually a directive about not giving more than 20 push-ups within a certain time frame. And the 20 push-ups is the actual number that you do, not the count, so you can't start from, say, negative 100. Anyway, there are always other ways to punish/train recruits. Just make the entire platoon do RT at night, then give 15 mins for everyone to shower before lights-out lor.

[EricLensherr]

My advice for you would be to project yourself 10-20 years into the future and think about how you want to look back on your NS days. Know that after everything is over, all you will remember are the times you experienced the extremes, be it happiness and comaraderie, or tiredness and frustration. You may remember how siong a particular training was, but you will never remember how siong that training felt. So, go ahead and piah as much as you can, because as difficult as it may be at times, the pain you feel is only temporal, but the memories, eternal. You only get one chance at being a recruit, so make the best use of it.

[chevrons]

i've heard now that there are rulings regarding punishments, such as at once only can pump 20 and that there must be an interval of x minutes between punishments. True or not?

Interestingly there was some similar regulation being instructed by my CSM to us just before I ORD 4 years back but not too sure whether such regulations are being followed strictly by commanders. :p

[chevrons]

Think BFnut summarises the gist of everything already ;)

[Smurfs]

why is it capped at 20? doing 20 isn't that physically exhausting... I mean previously in secondary school when our coach pumped us, it was into the 100s. no exaggeration here - the lowest he ever pumped us was 300. of course not all at one go.. like 30-50 at once.. we could finish that much in under 20mins... and that was considered punishment which is not equal to strength training, so later on we had to continue with strength training. if secondary school kids can do it, what more army guys?


Yes,in seconday sch, u they can make u do push ups up to even 300, but in the army there is what everyone called TSR- Training safety Regulation. And according the directive the max no of pushup one can do is 20. So no more than that.. and yes 20 might be a piece of cake for some of u.. but there are planty of ways to make these 20 push ups torturing.For example, the sgts can make u go down and hold it down maybe for 30s and then ask u come up..try that 20 times.. so what u can do 300 pushups...

[chevrons]

Yes,in seconday sch, u they can make u do push ups up to even 300, but in the army there is what everyone called TSR- Training safety Regulation. And according the directive the max no of pushup one can do is 20. So no more than that.. and yes 20 might be a piece of cake for some of u.. but there are planty of ways to make these 20 push ups torturing.For example, the sgts can make u go down and hold it down maybe for 30s and then ask u come up..try that 20 times.. so what u can do 300 pushups...

This sounds like one loophole of the regulation already

[el_nino]

I'd rather do more push ups than changing parade! Those were nightmarish during NCC days. Especially the inane combinations of attire...PT kit and boots! Long 4 top, pt kit shorts, left boot and right shoe!

[yan105]

Actually, if u get punished more, u will get used to it. so when u are told to 'knock it down', u have the 'do, do lor' feeling, it becomes part of ur daily life and u get stronger. slowly, 100 push ups shouldnt be a problem

[seantzw]

yea. kudos to BFnut!! that post was really good.

[chevrons]

I'd rather do more push ups than changing parade! Those were nightmarish during NCC days. Especially the inane combinations of attire...PT kit and boots! Long 4 top, pt kit shorts, left boot and right shoe!

NCC days even have defaulters parade

[schrecklichkeit]

push up is probably the smallest thing you can get liao so be happy. but u only see push ups being used when you are undergoing training. worst is they give push up for stupid nothing reasons.

go to unit... commit mistake = guard duty liao

[packjust]

hi guys i wil b entering army soon. got any advice for me or not? i very worried i cannot tahan the physical training. i heard veri siong.

Then, train yourself up.

[kengz]

Unless u have some physical defects. PES C and below usually lead a more relaxed lives as opposed to their PES A and B compatriots. Then again, I know PES A/B soldiers who become drivers.

[woofie98]

No doubt many people on this forum haven't even been to NS...

Some, like me, late teens, going there in a coupla years time.

So, for those who HAVE been to NS, and have been through it all, why not give the younger male STOMPers here an idea of what to expect?

After all, you guys were once teens too, and did not know what to expect. How about letting us now have some idea of what to expect in the future?

What can you say to teens who think NS is a piece of cake? What do you have to say about the way some teens are handling life now? NS is a big jerk out of their comfort zones, so what do you have to say ABOUT the culture shock and the difference between NS and their lives now where everything they want is within arms length reach and their computers, Ipods and handphones are their lives?

Dear all soon-to-be enlistees,

Just to share my story with you.

My BMT Days
I've served my NS in the early 90s and I've also completed my 13 year reservist training cycle. When I first got enlisted to NS, I wasn't really prepared both physically and mentally even though I'd some advice from friends who were enlisted before me. I paid a heavy price during my 2nd week of service.

I was being picked upon my my platoon Corporal for no reason at all. He kept punishing me for my slow reflexes to his command. Initially, I bit the bullet and tried my best to accommodate his 'leadership' style. On one training lesson, he hit my head while I was at the push-up posture and that was the last straw. I got up, removed my helmet and threw it at him. This happened before the family visiting day. I was slammed hard with 7 extra guard duties and this is on top of the 2 guard duties 'entitled' to each recruit. Overall, I did 9 guard duties and I could easily tread the patrolling path blind-folded by the time I passed-out from my BMT.

I was summoned by the Regimental Sergeant Major (RSM) to give accounts on the incident, the RSM didn't expect a studeous looking lad to turned up. He was expecting some 'Pai Kia' looking fella. "Are you sure this is the guy?", he asked his Corporal. Besides the RSM, I was also interviewed by the Commanding Officer (CO) and my Platoon Commander (PC).

I became an overnight celebrity for the wrong reason. I then realised that I had acted rashly and I could've been thrown into the Detention Barracks (DB). From that day onwards, I was being labelled as a 'Sabo King' until the last day of my BMT.

During the recruiting passing out function, I walked up to the Corporal whom I crossed path with and apologised to him. "Please don't make the same mistake again in your new unit because the punishment will not be lenient as you're no longer a recruit," was his advice.

After my BMT, I was posted to an airbase and became a Regimental Policeman (RP). Probably, they wanted some 'Gung Ho' chaps like me to enforce discipline and security.

My NS days
During my training days as an RP, I totally changed my behaviour and strived to be the best trainee. I was among the best and I was transferred to become the Personal Assistant (PA) to the CO after serving as RP for 3 months. That's when I learned my admin and IT skills. I also had opportunities to worked with reservists during their In-camp Training (ICT).

My Reservist days
I was fortunate to serve my reservist at the same airbase together with my peers. Over the past 12 years, I've made many great buddies. Many of them grown from a boy to man, bachelor to married man, married man to father. Some of them became business partners and colleagues.

Well, every soldier has a tale to tell. My advice to you:

1. Do you best in your NS
2. Train up your body
3. Build you mental strength
4. Make friends
5. Be humble and helpful
6. Lead well when the opportunity is given
7. Have fun

[chaosheaven]

"they say that in the army, the food is very nice. They gave u curry chicken,that taste like CCB..I dun wan to lead an army life..OC i want to go,PC i want go,mummy i want to go hommmmeeeee ar"

Advice for the recruits-gonnabe: Dun be the first, and dun be the last!

[nalA]

Unless u have some physical defects. PES C and below usually lead a more relaxed lives as opposed to their PES A and B compatriots. Then again, I know PES A/B soldiers who become drivers.


Define more relaxed life, and I should get the idea on what life I'll be going through in BMT. FYI: Tentatively, I'm in PES C9L3.


And last but not least, as quoted from BFNut, what in the world is a SA Commander????

[BFnut]

...And last but not least, as quoted from BFNut, what in the world is a SA Commander????

Police term :
SA - Staff Assistant

[gallantnice]

Does whitehorse still exist in NS nowadays? Sorry I was out of NS many years ago.
Ya Ofcause threr R !!

[nalA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kengz
Unless u have some physical defects. PES C and below usually lead a more relaxed lives as opposed to their PES A and B compatriots. Then again, I know PES A/B soldiers who become drivers.



OKaay................But define PEC C leading a more relaxed life....

[silverstream_lee]

BMT is really the most fun you'll have in your entire NS life. The friendships you build up and the training you go through leads to a truly unforgettable experience.

After that, it's really a matter of luck and where it takes you. I got posted to the Navy :D
Gott agree there, BMT or Training Phases are usually the most fun period. You get to know many people and they are all going through the exact same things as you. My best times in NS so far have been during training periods like BMT and JRC (Junior Ratings Course - Navy).

[blur0007]

1)Cut your own botak! Or at least cut your hair short before enlisting. For those with long hair and too cheap for a hair cut. Be prepared for a painful hair pulling session.

2)Bring at least 5 hard packs for smokers. (Trust me, during BMT u'll see cheapos who never buy ciggies but still wanna smoke)

3)Bring along "snake" powder. U'll learn to love it.

4)Bring extra Hp batts. Chargers will most likely be confiscated and forgotten.

5)U r allowed to bring "DRY" foodstuffs. Do try to bring some biscuits as u'll always feel hungry during BMT

6)PTP= Physical Training Phase(6 weeks), BMT= Basic Military Training(10 weeks)
STANDARD BMT = 8 weeks(This only applies for enlistees with O-levels and below)
Enhanced BMT = 10 weeks (Anything above A-levels, Diploma)

7)For those aiming for OCS, U can forget it if u anyhow hamtam during the IQ test in CMPB

8)For those aiming to downgrade/OOC/chao keng etc etc. Do it during the PTP phase. Find some outside specialist to write a recommandation letter to the MO (Medical Officer). Best effect if the specialist is from a gahment Hospital

7)Team Players are highly regarded in BMT.

8)Never, never initiate a fight or be instigated into one. No point, no purpose. Easiest way to get thrown into DB

9)The OO (orientation officer) is your tailsman against SUPER UNREASONABLE instructors.

10)Remember!!! The SAF HOTLINE is the most efficient, yet most under-utilised number for u to call despite wad your instructors will tell u.

11)Never set your alarm clock more den 30mins before Fall-in timing. Your section-mates will kill u.

12)Never ever talk back to your superiors. At least in front of everyone. If you feel uneasy abt his judgement. Find him after wadever punishment he throw. (ie push-up, stomach crunches). Give him face, and he'll give u yours.

13)Before leaving for Pulau Tekong, Visualise your pride, ego and write in onto a piece of paper. Leave it at home. U have no pride or ego there.

14)Try to memorise the SAF 7 core values fast to save u some punishment.
i)Loyalty to Country
ii)Leadership
iii)discipline
iv)Professionalism
v)fighting spirits
vi)ethics
vii)care for soldiers

15)There will be a lesson dedicated into the teaching of the INFANTRY SONG. Learn it. Or at least pretend to know it.

16)During any High-Ranking Officer's Q&A sessions. U are strongly advised to ask CONSTRUCTIVE QNS only. Never make any stupid complaints.

17)Greeting of instructors is a must-do during BMT. Salute with your right hand, dun be a c0ck and salute ppl with your left. Salutes are offered to Officers(Those with ranks on the shoulders) only.

18)Learn to differentiate between Commissioned Officers and Warrant Officers. Dun salute Warrant Officers.


1)Bring more briefs, u surely need them

2) Buy few more army t-shirt, singlets & black shorts, what they give cfm not enuf

3) buy some red & black tapes

4) Cash (notes & coins) will alllow u to buy things during canteen breaks and after last parade.

5) Bring swimming googles if u cant swim without googles

6) Must get used to cookhouse food.

7) Clothes hangers at least 10. Make sure they are personalise, u dont wan pple to take ur stuff and claim its theirs.

8) bring marker!!!! to write ur name on all the shirts,pants n even hangers....if dun write than next morning u will find ur things less n less

[jelliesworld]

is it common for girls to join army? is it okay if a girl want to join the army? is there any precautions a girl have to take when she joins the army? is there any criteria for girls who wants to join the army? is there any"special treatment" for girls compared to guys who joins the army?

how high are the possibilties of a girl getting into the army?

[EvilCicada]

1)Cut your own botak! Or at least cut your hair short before enlisting. For those with long hair and too cheap for a hair cut. Be prepared for a painful hair pulling session.

2)Bring at least 5 hard packs for smokers. (Trust me, during BMT u'll see cheapos who never buy ciggies but still wanna smoke)

3)Bring along "snake" powder. U'll learn to love it.

4)Bring extra Hp batts. Chargers will most likely be confiscated and forgotten.

5)U r allowed to bring "DRY" foodstuffs. Do try to bring some biscuits as u'll always feel hungry during BMT

6)PTP= Physical Training Phase(6 weeks), BMT= Basic Military Training(10 weeks)
STANDARD BMT = 8 weeks(This only applies for enlistees with O-levels and below)
Enhanced BMT = 10 weeks (Anything above A-levels, Diploma)

7)For those aiming for OCS, U can forget it if u anyhow hamtam during the IQ test in CMPB

8)For those aiming to downgrade/OOC/chao keng etc etc. Do it during the PTP phase. Find some outside specialist to write a recommandation letter to the MO (Medical Officer). Best effect if the specialist is from a gahment Hospital

7)Team Players are highly regarded in BMT.

8)Never, never initiate a fight or be instigated into one. No point, no purpose. Easiest way to get thrown into DB

9)The OO (orientation officer) is your tailsman against SUPER UNREASONABLE instructors.

10)Remember!!! The SAF HOTLINE is the most efficient, yet most under-utilised number for u to call despite wad your instructors will tell u.

11)Never set your alarm clock more den 30mins before Fall-in timing. Your section-mates will kill u.

12)Never ever talk back to your superiors. At least in front of everyone. If you feel uneasy abt his judgement. Find him after wadever punishment he throw. (ie push-up, stomach crunches). Give him face, and he'll give u yours.

13)Before leaving for Pulau Tekong, Visualise your pride, ego and write in onto a piece of paper. Leave it at home. U have no pride or ego there.

14)Try to memorise the SAF 7 core values fast to save u some punishment.
i)Loyalty to Country
ii)Leadership
iii)discipline
iv)Professionalism
v)fighting spirits
vi)ethics
vii)care for soldiers

15)There will be a lesson dedicated into the teaching of the INFANTRY SONG. Learn it. Or at least pretend to know it.

16)During any High-Ranking Officer's Q&A sessions. U are strongly advised to ask CONSTRUCTIVE QNS only. Never make any stupid complaints.

17)Greeting of instructors is a must-do during BMT. Salute with your right hand, dun be a c0ck and salute ppl with your left. Salutes are offered to Officers(Those with ranks on the shoulders) only.

18)Learn to differentiate between Commissioned Officers and Warrant Officers. Dun salute Warrant Officers.


1)Bring more briefs, u surely need them

2) Buy few more army t-shirt, singlets & black shorts, what they give cfm not enuf

3) buy some red & black tapes

4) Cash (notes & coins) will alllow u to buy things during canteen breaks and after last parade.

5) Bring swimming googles if u cant swim without googles

6) Must get used to cookhouse food.

7) Clothes hangers at least 10. Make sure they are personalise, u dont wan pple to take ur stuff and claim its theirs.

8) bring marker!!!! to write ur name on all the shirts,pants n even hangers....if dun write than next morning u will find ur things less n less

dun worry lar maybe in ten years time u can bring ur personally maid too :D

[EvilCicada]

females r allowed 2 enter army. but u have 2 sign contract

i think so and the contract will state that u cannot get pregnant with the first 3 years of sign on

[firestorm]

16)During any High-Ranking Officer's Q&A sessions. U are strongly advised to ask CONSTRUCTIVE QNS only. Never make any stupid complaints.


And female officer ranks are on their collar (collar-pin). Dun blur blur see no epaulette then dun salute.